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Rome

then go do it. You want a tutorial? lmao

I mean, if you can give me a tutorial I can think of a lot of potential uses for backwards time travel

No one is doing this with their physical body, man

^

what are they using? their soul?

That would be one way to put it, yes

Consciousness

4:50 PM

Awareness. Whatever you want to refer to it as

astral body

If you're unfamiliar with astral projection, I would start reading there.

Spirit body

so is it just that in the astral plane time is more funky?

Time isn't linear

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You can go wherever really

I'm not expert on astral projection, but I'm not completely ignorant

We're controlled by the constraints of linear time in the 3rd dimension

Time flows both ways in the astral. It is like a giant current and sometimes when you put things in that current they go backwards.

Jeremy Beremy

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Good Place reference

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But yeah. Understanding that time isn't a linear construct in the astral, you can deduce that one could go back in time or forwards in time

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With that deduction, you can also deduce that maybe you can go back in time to a point where you may have needed your expertise

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Hence what I did

I have only seen a few people claim to go back like that and most of them were not credible

What even is credibility in this realm?

My words exactly!

so how does nonlinear time work exactly? surely time travel would result in fractal, branching timeline

only way you could prove it is have them follow you along in the astral

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Time travel is usually accounted for in the 5th dimension and above

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If you were going to do it in this life, chance are you knew it before you incarnated and thus accounted for it

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That gets into the higher self line of thinking/idealogy.

what do you mean accounted for it?

Look, the more I explain about this, the more questions you're going to have because explaining how higher selves work and how we know everything we're going to do before we do it is frustrating to say the least

that makes sense

I can recommend a book written by a doctor and licensed hypnotherapist that specializes in regressing people to that part of their psyche

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Journey of Souls by Dr. Michael Newton

can you get licensed for hypnotherapy?

Eye opening book

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Yeah

With that deduction, you can also deduce that maybe you can go back in time to a point where you may have needed your expertise

But if you give your past self that expertise, doesn't that mean the you that's going back to give them advice will be destroyed?

I didn't give that information to myself. I had it before I had my experience

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Which is how I was able to do so in the first place

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Its like making a reminded to yourself to finish the laundry later

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*reminder

I mean in your hypothetical scenario of "you can go back in time to give yourself expertise", if you actually did that you'd destroy yourself, no?

Nah. That just means it was probably meant to happen for various reasons

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Time is wibble wobbly as a wise man once put it. Theres no collapsing on itself or any of that

well you would destroy yourself if time were linear and you did something in the past that would make your current self not exist, but if time is more of a tree than a line, then you wouldn't be destroying yourself, you would just be destroying a theoretical copy of yourself

Guys, there is no destroying anything. This aint a sci fi movie.

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Nothing can be created nor destroyed

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Only transmuted

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Consciousness is immortal

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well for millions of years at least

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It is but it isn't.

if it is only immortal for millions of years, then it isn't immortal at all

Thats why I said it is but it isn't

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After those millions of years, it still exists. just not in the form it did prior

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The experience I had to relate this info to me cured my depression. Thats why I speaking on it so certain

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I don't truly know. But I have an idea

So let me put it in a way that might make a little more sense. If I am doing something and I hit my head it sends out a blast of pain through the astral. A good portion of that goes back through time and if I am sensitive enough I detect it and try to avoid the pain, but I cannot avoid that pain if I don't have any warning of it in the first place. So I must hit my head to avoid hitting my head which ends with me avoiding it slightly but not all the way.

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As such you couldn't make it to where you didn't exist because then you wouldn't exist to make yourself not exist

Hmmm this is starting to make sense to me

so then time is linear? I thought that you just said that time wasn't linear?

I dont know if thats a good sign, lol (edited)

Amazing way of explaining it

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It should and shouldn't make sense lmao

I didn't. I said it was a big current where some of it flows backwards, but the majority forwards

I said that and thats not exactly what I said

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Time IN THE ASTRAL isn't linear. It is in the way of how we experience thing, from one point to the next, but one can manipulate time meaning that time isn't totally linear

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Albino is probably more on point with the explanation

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The majority flows forward just because its easiest, but it can flow backwards

if you can partially avoid the pain, but not completely, then wouldn't that mean that less pain is sent backwards in time too, and therefore in the next time around you would also try to avoid it a bit more, and onwards until the signal is to weak to detect and then you end up getting it full force again? is is time an infinite loop that continually iterates on itself until eventually it becomes exactly like it was originally and the cycle starts over?

I think you're getting it a bit lmao

You know everytime I have a conversation like this it is always a thought whether the effort put into it is worth it. Like will the person get any use of this information or is it just a pointless conversationi?

This is getting slightly terrifying

omfg same man

I mean, I doubt that I'll ever use it, but it is interesting to talk about

It kinda goes like that, but it evens out at a middle point somehow

It gets exhausting trying to explain it all. Not that you guys are exhausting, but the topic and explaining it is

I can't really explain why, it just does

Albino I can ease your mind on that front. If it was pointless, it wouldnt be happening in the first place

The beginning and end of time is essentially the same

pointless things happen all the time. everything is pointless

It goes in a circle

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kind of like the serpent swallowing itself

Breloomancer

pointless things happen all the time. everything is pointless

Everything is and isnt pointless at the same time

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What I mean is that this conversation is happening because there was no way for it not to happen

unlesss.....

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nah im jk

Lol

if only we were sensitive enough to the future to be able to know this conversation was going to happen so that we could partially, but not entirely, avoid it (jk)

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lmfao

I wonder if Rome and Albino would laugh me out of the room if I started talking about enlightenment

Ugh. That is a whole ass topic and a half right there

5:13 PM

There are different forms of enlightenment. Lets just start there

Ill leave it for after my daily Wim Hof breathing and cold shower :p

I need to eat too. Haven't eaten yet

The serpent swallowing itself is a good analogy. It goes back and forth until it finds a spot which is just right. So it is like I go through a time loop until a reasonable outcome is reached.

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Although it doesn't feel like a time loop, I just come out with a couple different experiences all mushed together

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Really weird

so eventually it will stabilize into a loop that makes the next loop exactly the same?

Yes